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    Star Trek Online A rant about the recent pricing tactics of Star Trek Online

    November 11, 2020

    Star Trek Online A rant about the recent pricing tactics of Star Trek Online

    A rant about the recent pricing tactics of Star Trek Online

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:43 AM PST

    So I saw the new disco legendary bundle and couldn't really get behind how expensive it was and then I got reminded by a friend about a similar thing happening in fallout 76.

    Internet historian did a really good job addressing what happened in his fallout 76 video (if your curious the part of the video is at the 24 minute mark) basically the Direct quote goes "oh look its marked down half price, but its not it was released half price. They are artificially jacking up the price only to then give it a fake limited time discount in order to create a sense of urgency. Thats illegal here in australia, in canada and in the EU."

    and as some one who lives in canada I feel like someone has to bring this up and since I havnt seen it brought up since the 10th anny bundle came out earlier this year I feel like I have to be the one to bring it up since no one else seems to be.

    I bring this up because its just dumb like really? I look at mudds market right now and I see a single piece of armor from an event I missed thats like $80 when really it should just been a rare item in the pheonix prize box. and a lot of the things that have been added to mudds market are things that should be added to the pheonix prize box, things like the risan corvette, the vulcan scout ship, the fek'ihri warship, the priors console, the black ops mines. ALL of these items were from past events yet they are put in mudds market when every other item that was from an event before mudds market was put in the pheonix boxes. So why are they in mudds market? and for an even larger price than a normal ship? I get that they "arnt a normal ship cuz they were from an event" but still $170 for a ship that was given away for free over a year ago?

    I know star trek online is a F2P game and they need to make their money somehow but as someone who has had a lifetime membership since 2015 and has spent loads of money on this game I can't help but see that what has been going on as of late is just predatory. I have spent more money on this game IN THIS VERY YEAR than I have spent on ANY OTHER GAME and yet all that has happend is the content has become super grindy. Remember back during the iconian war and a bit there after where each mission came with an item set and each week you came back to play the mission again to get another piece of the set, that was nice it kept you coming back and didnt burn you out. with the recent event item set thing I had to grind out a bunch of days just to get it and felt burnt out by the end of it. and someone like my friend who doesnt play the game as much as I do now doesnt have the opportunity to claim the item set cuz it wasnt connected to the new mission, and he doesnt have money to throw around like I do so when this set inevitably arrives on mudds market he wont purchase it.

    I know this rant was a long one but I felt like I had to get this out of my system and I just hope that they stop doing this stupid stuff and get back to doing what was good without all the FOMO.

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    How about letting the Winter Wonderland run for a couple of months this year, Cryptic?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 04:17 AM PST

    The world's in chaos and we need a serene and beautiful place to relax in when we're online. Would it be possible for you to enable access to Winter Wonderland in the beginning of December (or earlier) and let it run for two months or so? This year's Winter Event doesn't have to be active all that time, just allow us access to the map and its activities. It would be greatly appreciated.

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    You know, Valkis-class is the beauty itself.

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 04:50 AM PST

    USS Proxima...Maiden Voyage

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:33 AM PST

    Blackbird, my homage to the SR-71

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 09:12 AM PST

    Cryptic Marketing and Pricing Complaints Mega Thread Needed

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 04:39 AM PST

    Hello Everyone. This marks my first real post after lurking for years. Over the time, I've been able to see the slow rise of new threads pop up over Cryptic's often insane marketing and sales tactics. These are mostly venting threads, but some interesting discussions come out of them too. However, the shear amount of threads devoted to the same topic gets old fast. So, now might be the time for the page Mods to act.

    I think at this point, there REALLY needs to be one place where you can dump on Cryptic. Maybe whenever anyone important ever drops by and sees a mega thread with thousands of comments about their practices, it might help them truly understand the direction they been on for the last few years in a very unpopular one. Personally. I think they know that very much so, but don't care and the majority like the money they make.

    Set a hard set of rules for the mega thread. Obviously we don't need it to get heated and personal. People do need a venting space though. What do you think?

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    Now with the Legendary Walker arrival, i'm feeling "robbed"... TWICE :(

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 09:09 PM PST

    Ok, this is mainly a rant than anything else, but this is how i feel about this "Legendary" situation.

    So, long time ago, they gave us a T6 Walker for lobi purchase. Wasn't interested back then since i rarely buy lobi ships. Then they gave us the first scale ship, the T4 Walker into a nice little pack, along with the Discovery "faction". It was great, i could level up one toon as a true DSC character, using only one ship 'till i get the rank to fly the T6 Walker.

    I picked up my wallet, bought the Discovery Starter Pack, and also spend some more money to get the T6 Walker. And that was great... for a while...

    Then, the first deception came later, when they launched the Discovery OPERATIONS Pack. It was nice they made the discount for those of us who bougth the starter pack, but the sad stuff was they made a GREAT skin for the T6 Walker, BUT in order to use it "properly", i only had 2 choices: Buy ANOTHER lobi Walker to use it on another toon TWOK era themed, or re-theme my Disco toon to fit TWOK era... something will not actually fit due FX and stuff (and that i also spend extra lobi on Disco Themed stuff). And in fact, i got in love with the Magee Pilot Escort, and was considering to switch my DSC themed toon's ships, but i considered a waste of money, cause i actually spend money to get the lobi Walker (And i wasn't making the same mistake i did back with the NX-Refit, i have her but colecting dust since she don't fit properly on my main toon.

    But well, i get saddened, i had an exclusive Walker skin that i wish i could use at end-tier level, but no way to use it until i spend a lot more of money, so nevermind, i moved on.

    ​

    Then, the second deception came yesterday i saw the news of a Legendary Walker. The ship itself seems great, the skin on 25th Century is FANTASTIC! A true majestic art, and even considering to some day save money and 3D Print via mixed dimensions. But sadly, it's on the "legendary" stuff, meaning the price it's exhorbitant! Even at the 50% discount, that would mean a full week of my salary. Don't get me wrong, i had make a lot of purchases all this years, so i managed to buy stuff from the game, slowly but steady, one small step at a time. But for me, this is overpriced by a lot. I know, this is a wide account Walker, and has good stats, but it's still just a ship The Boost is useless for me, i love to level up my toons so i can make new decisions on the training on the way. And there's nothing esle, so for me it's useless (Somewhere they speak about "holo boffs", but i don't see anything about it on the blogs, so no extras). At least the Legendary Dread-X had a LOT of usually character locked stuff that could be used wide account, even small bits for KDF and Romulans. But on this pack... It doesn't compensate at all (The Legendary T'Liss was at least a ship that could be used on ALL toons).

    And what makes me a bit mad, is that the Georgiu skin that was supposedly "exclusive" for Disco Operations Pack, now you can get it with a wide account and better stats Shenzou ship. So basically now i felt that i got LESS both with the Disco Operations Pack & the lobi Walker.

    Now i'm wishing that back when i got the Disco Operations Pack, they also included the T6 Europa and the T6 Excelsior as extras, so at least now i would feel that pack was a bit more valuable. Even i was expecting to see a "dream for me Mudd's deal" that could have included the T6 lobi Walker + the Mirror Engle + the Freedom Frigate, all now for wide account unlock. But now for the Walker to be a wide account, must be a legendary purchase... that's a ship that it's even BETTER than my old T6 character locked lobi ship. If they could only make lobi ships wide account, even if that means purchasing for ONLY a second time the ship, to make it wide account...

    Well, that's just my thoughts, feel free to comment or something. End of the sad rant.

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    Legendary walker boffs (credit swift_wind)

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 10:21 PM PST

    J'ross allied with the Federation and got her crew some spiffy uniforms.

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 03:08 AM PST

    Eaglemoss is selling the U.S.S. Shenzhou for 5$

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 09:00 AM PST

    Get the Right Loadout!

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 09:00 AM PST

    We can dream, right...

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 06:14 PM PST

    Terran Galaxy-X skin question

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 10:28 AM PST

    Is the Terran skin from the Terran Galaxy-X only available to the Galaxy-X or does it also work for the regular Galaxy?

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    Exclusive first-look at in-game shots of the Shenzou Class (Legendary T6 Walker Light Battlecruiser)

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 09:50 AM PST

    Has Cryptic said if they will make the Discovery boffs account vide from the Legendary Disco pack , or they still sticking with once per account on character that claims the boost? - cause that's the deal breaker for me...

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 08:58 PM PST

    Last time they tried this with the cyborg and Disco klingon boff and by pressure from the community they made them account unlocks, and since then they made all special boffs bought in the store account unlocks with 1 purchase, so why are they once per account only on the single character that claims the boost ? I have already 5 Disco chars, and I want the boffs for them, probably not going to fly the ship much anyway...

    Please Cryptic, make them so, if needed, make the Romulan pack boffs as well so it won't look as bad deal, I really don't care about those but there might be players who do, it's not like players can play with 2 characters at same time so they'll have 2 sets of Disco boffs on lol, it's about playing and enjoying the game with items we pay for, and want to have access to at all times on ALL characters we have.

    Or, just add them in Mudds or zen store as a pack for 2000-3000k zen whatever is a single special boff worth multiplied by the number of boffs included in the Legendary Disco pack...

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    Am I able to get the NX-01 refit in game? I'm fairly new

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 01:29 PM PST

    I wish the main menu showed the BOFFs holding the weapons they’re actually equipped with and not just the default ones for those factions

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 12:34 PM PST

    It seems odd that they don't, after all the outfit you've given them is shown, the BOFFs you've chosen for your away team are the ones shown, just seems weird the game doesn't show you their equipped weapons and instead shows default phaser/disruptor etc. rifles

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    Oh that's terrifying... Or when you're just a little Miranda and a Universe-class is on the prowl.

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 03:29 AM PST

    We could really use an EC sink to control the exchange price

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 06:42 PM PST

    My friend wanted to buy a promo ship and couldn't find one on exchange, so he went to channels asking to buy one, for 1.5b. And the response he get is "if I want 1.5b, I would just put it on exchange." Crazy when I first hear it, but on second thought, it's kinda reasonable. When lockbox ships are 600m, promo ships could go up to 1.3b+ already and now that keys are 8m and lock box ships are 800m, the promo ships are just being devalued at 1.5b. With more EC generated everyday the price would inevitably go up so unless we get an EC sink or even a transaction fee for exchange, the inflation will never stop.

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    The adventure begins...

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 05:28 AM PST

    Accolade help - TFO Viscous Cycle

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 10:46 PM PST

    Always Time for Science: In the midst of battle, your team investigated an unstable anomaly in Fluidic Space.
    Anyone know the exact spot, and circumstances as I just cant get/find this one?

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    Scientific Pursuits

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 05:27 AM PST

    Damn Tovan Khev...ruining my fully Reman crew

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 02:43 PM PST

    Another week! Another Stream! Friday at 6PST!

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 01:54 PM PST

    Hope all you guys are having a good week, I'll be doing another Q/A stream on Friday. Please put your questions below and we'll cover each one! twitch.tv/placeholderqa

    **I'll also be streaming tonight and Thursday night, if you want to drop by with your questions you can but I won't be going through the thread either nights.

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    Some uniform pieces have wrong colour chart

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 07:50 AM PST

    As the title says, I have been trying to edit the uniforms on some of my characters and boffs to have a standardised design across the whole crew, however some random pieces seem to be using the wrong colour chart (different from the same piece on different characters) which is not restricted to the same pieces on each character, the boots on one boff for instance is not the same chat as the same boots on a different boff.

    Is there any know way to fix this issue or will I just have to wait until the devs fix the bug I reported?

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